The Jerusalem Post’s Khaled Abu Toameh appears to have been badly misled on this story about a video of an alleged Hamas honor killing in the Gaza Strip. The paper’s Web site is currently leading with the story. Too bad the disturbing video looks to be a 2004 April 2007 clip of a Yazidi girl in Iraq being beaten by a mob of angry men. Reports the Post:
This time it’s the brutal murder of a 16-year-old girl in the Gaza Strip. Her crime: “dishonoring” her family. Of course, there is no way to verify the allegations against her and other females who have fallen victim to “honor killings.”
The gruesome murder occurred a few weeks ago, when the girl - who looks much younger than her age - was dragged into the street and handed to an mob of angry young men.
Eyewitnesses told The Jerusalem Post that many of those who participated in the lynch were Hamas members and relatives of the girl.
Here’s the video still run by the Jerusalem Post.
And here’s the 2004 CNN clip of the Yazidi girl.
UPDATE: Here’s the correction printed in yesterday’s Jersualem Post.
31 responses so far ↓
1 Dane Baker // Sep 29, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Charles,
I run a news aggregator site called LeftLink, and I’m in the process of putting together a commentary only site. I’d like to approach you about possibly joining that effort — could you drop me a line at staff@leftlink.com?
Yours,
Dane Baker
2 Shual // Sep 30, 2007 at 12:12 am
I don’t know what is going on with Abu Toameh. He is out of control. Last week, after several catholics of the region [including Michel Sabbah] were published with “Talk to Hamas, Now”-demands and with no reports of tensions in Gaza between, he took the story of an elderly woman that was beaten to see “attacks that have increased in the Gaza Strip since Hamas took full control of the area in June”. He did not give any other example than the incident at the “rosary-sister-school”.
Very bad journalism.
3 Pappe // Sep 30, 2007 at 6:34 am
While anyone considering Jerusalem post a real news papar does so at it’s own risk the truth in Gaza is indeed bad:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2543457.ece
4 Noor Hammad // Sep 30, 2007 at 6:43 am
This goes beyond just bad journalism. This is propaganda. Any journalist found to be peddling such obvious propaganda needs to be disregarded indefinitely.
Noor Hammad
5 Pappe // Sep 30, 2007 at 6:51 am
The Jerusalem Post has removed the article, and zombie received the following interesting note from the author:
Thanks, but it appears we were the victims of a hoax. the film was taken in Iraq, not Gaza. we have been misled deliberately…we have removed the story..apologies!
This was probably part of the ongoing Fatah-Hamas propaganda war, with the added benefit to Fatah of embarrassing the Jerusalem Post.
6 The Arabist » Jerusalem Post fabrications // Sep 30, 2007 at 7:30 am
[…] Charles has a report on how the Jerusalem Post is trying to pass off a video of a Yazidi girl being beaten in Iraq as an honor crime by Hamas. The reporter behind the “story,” Khaled Abu Toameh, is known for his biased reporting. […]
7 Pappe // Sep 30, 2007 at 8:37 am
“Any journalist found to be peddling such obvious propaganda needs to be disregarded indefinitely.”
True.
Also true to each paper which reported on the “Jenin Massacre” or call the anti-terror barrier “The wall”…. This is the same type of propeganda.
8 Pappe // Sep 30, 2007 at 8:55 am
“Instead of the open defiance of Khomeini’s Iran, Hamas has developed a parallel system: show a reasonable face to the world in the hope of ending Gaza’s isolation, while enforcing the unforgiving law of the state of Hamastan at home. ”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2543457.ece
9 Xaxam // Sep 30, 2007 at 9:14 am
Oh, indeed… One muslim atrocity is mistaken for another muslim atrocity, and this is clearly a biased journalism, down with the JP.
And those who spread the hoax about religious Jews poisoning trees in East Jerusalem (http://conflictblotter.com/2007/08/29/poisoning-trees-in-east-jerusalem/), they are of course, but innocent bloggers.
Shame on you, Conflict Blower!
10 Anony mouse // Sep 30, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Pappe engaging in slogans again. What a surprise, not. Clearly jews dont take part in atrocities. You racists.
11 Pappe // Sep 30, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Now “Anony Mouse” starts getting into personal accusations which I will not engage in. I have not made any such claim as he accuse me off but it is important to note that he call all the Jews “racists”….
No point discussing anything with a person that is:
1. turning every discussion into a personal and racist attack.
2. unable to recognize the right of the Jewish people to a homeland in the Midlle East.
12 Pappe // Sep 30, 2007 at 1:07 pm
Xaxam:
I actually think that trees were poisoned In Jerusalem. I therefore would not blame this blogger in being biased due to such a true report.
What that report points too is the common practice in western media to over report Israel and Israeli action. Poisoning of few trees is something that would not be covered by a municipal paper elsewhere in the world – but in Jerusalem it turn into a world wide news…Everything Israel does is blown out of proportion, other conflicts are ignored and this blogger is just doing what everyone one else in the media is doing….
Now let’s switch gears. If you want to see fabrications about Israel – here is a good one: “Poison - An Epidemic on the West Bank”
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp476.htm
13 Noor Hammad // Sep 30, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Pape, youre reply is comical.
Xaxam, the Yazidis are not Muslims . You don’t know what you are talking about so like Khaled Abu Toameh you should refrain from talking.
Noor Hammad
14 Xaxam // Sep 30, 2007 at 7:38 pm
Dear Hammoudi Nir,
your logic is impeccable; once a comma is misplaced, the entire statement is invalidated. Given your propensity to decide who is to talk, who is to shut up, you must be a censor for Al Jazeera. Or are you?
Going back to the issue. Of course, honor killings are not a prerogative of Moslems. If you find a scientific evidence that the Neanderthal humans also practiced it, I will eagerly believe.
Are you ready for a simple mental experiment? Take a sample phrase.
The angered mob of , crushing everything on its way, lynched two people.
Now try to find the best fit for the missing word among the following alternatives:
(1) Quackers
(2) Moslems
(3) Buddhists
(4) Cyclists
(5) University professors
(6) UN observers
(7) Hassidic Jews
If you are honest, you will probably be surprised.
15 Pappe // Sep 30, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Noor,
You like my sense of Homur ? Here is more:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-morris22sep22,0,7004385.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
16 Pappe // Sep 30, 2007 at 7:42 pm
Xaxam,
If you think Hasaid Jews don’t fir in your test add: Hebron Settlers.
17 Shual // Sep 30, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Pappe, [”and zombie received the following interesting note from the author”].
Zombi 1:”I’ve already written to [deleted] at the JPost, requesting that they send the video to me so that I can post it at zombietime. (Since the video seems to be not available online anywhere.) I explained that I understand they couldn’t post it thsemselves, due to regulations at the Jerusalem Post, but that the dissemination of the video itself will have a much greater effect on world opinion that simply a verbal description of what happened. By releasing it to a blog, they get around the issue — let us do the dirty work!”
Zombi2: “Some of the commenters at the JPost are questioning the veracity of the photos (and of the story itself). They’re saying the video is actually the one showing the honor killing of the Yazidi girl in northern Iraq from a few months ago. And that it was re-packaged and claimed to have taken place in Gaza. Hmmm. Anybody know if this is true? Can anyone find photos of the Yazidi honor killing? Are they the same as the JPost photos?”
Zombi3: “Holy cow! It is the Yazidi girl! They got fooled!”
Zombi4: “Look at Charles update! You can’t fool LGF!”
Zombi5: lgf-Q: “JPost says it interviewed eyewitnesses. Who were they?” A: “Crooked Palestinians looking for a way to slander their opponents. Part of the Hamas-vs.-Fatah civil war.”
Zombi6: “That’s twice in two days that Charles and LGF have issued corrections for stories almost as soon as the problems were discovered — before even the sources themselves made the corrections.”
Zombi7: “These are not normal Kurds, but Yazidis, a bizarre ancient sect (that some say are literal Satan-worshippers”
[Muhahahahahahaha. I talk to faucets with a higher IQ.]
18 greenmamba // Oct 1, 2007 at 1:36 am
Charles, in the interest of your journalistic integrity, you need to put an addendum to this story to the effect that JP has pulled their article.
19 Shual // Oct 1, 2007 at 4:28 am
“According to Dion Nissenbaum, who covers the Middle East as Jerusalem bureau chief for McClatchy Newspapers, the same video was feverishly sent around by e-mail and cell phone last month in Syria. Only the Syrians were telling each other this was an honor killing perpetrated by the Druse minority in southern Syria.”
[Intresting]
20 Pappe // Oct 1, 2007 at 5:14 am
Shual,
Zombie is a name of Califoernia Blogger:
http://www.zombietime.com/
21 Noor Hammad // Oct 1, 2007 at 6:43 am
Xaxam,
You are clearly an ignoramus of a diabolical nature.
Noor Hammad
22 Xaxam // Oct 1, 2007 at 7:22 am
Noor Hammad,
you call me “ignoramus” because I didn’t supply the answer or hint to the small quiz above? Was it too difficult for you to guess? Want a second try? (You see, I am generous and not diabolic at all).
Pappe,
the last time a Jewish Hebron resident was involved in a lynch, was when the mob of faithful lynched Dr. Baruch Goldshtein. Of course, the doctor was not exactly innocent,- after seeing so many of his fellow Jews killed by freedom fighters, he decided to avenge, but the faithful moslems in turn didn’t want to wait until he serves twenty-something life sentences in jail and tore him into pieces barehandedly.
By the way, perhaps you can explain the difference between the words “settler” and “resident”? Was Cho Seung-Hui, the Virginia Tech murderer, a campus settler from Virginia, or a resident?
23 Pappe // Oct 1, 2007 at 7:35 am
Xaxam,
Only a real ass-hole would justify what Goldstein did in the same words used by hamas to justify killing Jews.
as for “settler” and “resident”:
A resident is someone who live in a certain place.
A “settler’ is a person that lives somewhere but thinks that only people like him have the right to live there and he tries by force and other means (propaganda, int’l pressure) to push others away.
So most Jews living in the west bank fit this definition of a “settler”. Also many Palestinians who live in the west bank, Israel etc.. fit the same definition: They don’t want to share the land with the Jewish people .
Of course each of those settler types (Messianic Jewish settler, Islamists Palestinians) make the claim that they do want “to share” but under the condition that others accept them as sole rulers. Muslim want the Jews to live as Dhimis and Jewish settlers are willing the Arabs to remain as “Ger Toshav”.
So in a way the settlers and Hamas deserve each other – they are so much alike.
24 Xaxam // Oct 1, 2007 at 8:10 am
Pappe,
if you find a single word in my post that justifies the crime committed by Goldstein, I will eat my fur hat. I only said that the people who tore his body apart fit more the definition of lynch. Nothing similar was ever committed by the Jewish Hebron residents.
Re: your psychological/phylological discourse. How many Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria you know? Did they swore before your eyes that they want all Arabs out?
Until the peaceful Arab neighbours started killing them on the roads, in their beds and disco parties, the only thing the Jews wanted was to live without hindrance in the Land which they believe is theirs. Note the difference between “land” and “Land”: having the right for the Land was never confused with the deeds for a particular plot of the land to become a construction site. It is the opponents’ point of view is that the Jews simply should not be there, period, which they do not accept.
The idea of transferring Arabs from the Judea and Samaria occurred to a few hotheads only after all hopes for the peaceful coexistance were dashed. And even these hotheads did not advocate any forced expulsion, but rather development of government programs stimulating the Arab population of Judea and Samaria to emigrate on their own free will.
25 Pappe // Oct 1, 2007 at 8:34 am
Xaxam - eat your hat:
“after seeing so many of his fellow Jews killed by freedom fighters, he decided to avenge”
“How many Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria you know? Did they swore before your eyes that they want all Arabs out? ”
More than enough. Most of them want Arabs out or become a Ger Toshav .
“all hopes for the peaceful coexistance were dashed” - I am afraid you are correct for now what we need is for the Palestinian people to declare clearly that:
1. They recognize the right of the Jewish people to a homeland in the middle –east in borders to be agreed upon based on 67 borders + modifications/land-swap.
2. They have no “Right of Return” to the area that will become the Homeland of the Jewish people.
3. There will be equal number of people from both sides that will be allowed to live in the other people homeland. I.e. if 200,000 settlers will be allowed to stay on the Palestinian side of the border 200,000 Palestinians will be allowed to stay in Israel. All others will have to be absorbed by their respective country.
4. Individuals who will vacate property will receive compensations based on “Eminent Domain” guidelines. This include 1948 and 1967 refugees but also Jewish refugees from Arab lands.
26 Mimi // Oct 1, 2007 at 3:38 pm
In all the hubub about the journalism, what about the girl? Did the JP make up the story too, or was there an honor killing and a video mistakenly linked with it? I don’t see any report yet on Women Against Violence’s website, though the lead story from a women’s conference in Amman has the subtitle: “in terms of services, abused [Arab] women fare better in the Arab world [than in Israel]”
27 Anony mouse // Oct 1, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Accusing somebody of racism is racist? Typical pappe backwards logic. I didnt accuse all jews or atrocities, I said ‘clearly jews dont take part in atrocities’. Its is called a sarcastic remark. He condemns the victims of occupation and applauds the occupation. He also lies that i do not accept the principle of a homeland for jews. My past posts demonstrate exactly the opposite. You sir, are a liar supreme.
28 Pappe // Oct 1, 2007 at 8:36 pm
Anony Mous:
You accused all the jews. read what you wrote:
“Clearly jews dont take part in atrocities. You racists.”
and yes. accusaing all the jews in racism is RACIST to the core.
29 Shual // Oct 1, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Mimi,
Charles already said that CNN had the story: “Authorities in northern Iraq have arrested four people in connection with the “honor killing” last month of a Kurdish teen — a startling, morbid pummeling caught on a mobile phone video camera and broadcast around the world.” and AI has an article about her: http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE140272007
W.A.V. is working in Israel only, I think.
30 Shual // Oct 1, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Mimi,
Charles already said that CNN had the story: “Authorities in northern Iraq have arrested four people in connection with the “honor killing” last month of a Kurdish teen — a startling, morbid pummeling caught on a mobile phone video camera and broadcast around the world.” and AI has an article about her. Name: Du’a Khalil Aswad.
W.A.V. is working in Israel only, I think.
[No link, cause: Your comment is awaiting moderation.]
31 anony mouse // Oct 3, 2007 at 8:18 pm
No pappe. You accused all muslims and I made a sarcastic comment. You thick racist fuck.
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